Chemist with ties to graphene research takes issue with any suggestion of graphene in blood clots
I apologize a bit in advance here, because this is not a subject I’m in a good mood about. Lyndsey House is on Twitter, and if you follow her, you know she’s getting upset. Sunday evening’s Twitter Space with Richard Hirschmann and others has spawned a debate, but not one I had anticipated or hoped for. And I know it takes two, and for that I’m apologizing. But I believe there is a principle to stand up for here, and I intend to do so.
There was some speculation among the group that graphene or graphene oxide could potentially be a factor in these strange substances and blood clots. This was a good-hearted effort among people who were only trying to figure out the truth, and have no other agenda than Justice beyond that.
I had previusly done some research on graphene oxide and I included the links to that research in a summary of the Space. I remarked that no one had bothered to fact check me yet. Why did I say that. I suppose I got my wish in a way. Enter Geoff Pain, Phd.
Mr. Pain has a different view of any discussions concerning graphene than we in the group do. According to him, “Fifth Column promoting Graphene Fantasies attempting to bring down Honest Campaigners.” So he’s the honest man, and we are all conspiring to bring Mr. Pain and his research down. Perhaps he even has a different view of authority and free speech, as I think Australia seems to have. Things have gotten bad in the United States, no doubt, but Australia went down further and faster. Not that we’re out, any of us, is just that we haven’t begun to get up and fight back.
Let’s see some of the other responses of Mr. Pain. I will respond again to him.
REPLIES
Geoff Pain: Patents are a great place to learn facts. CureVac used magnetic beads in their bioreactor. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020002598A1/en
First, “Patents are a great place to learn facts.” Really? WOW. That’s why you have a PhD I guess. Silly me. Yes, they are a great place to learn facts. That’s why I published the link to the patent application that you referred to, along with screenshots of the bioreactor, and some of the text about the magnetic stirring particles. If you would like to say, “let’s refer to the patent you linked to,” that’s different.
But nevermind that, the patent clearly refers to PARTICLES, not beads. The word particle is in more times than you can shake a stick at. This is just a sample. Say it with me. Let’s spell it: P-A-R-T-I-C-L-E-S.
Mr. Pain, have misrepesented the nature of what was is in the patent application. By the way, it was an patent application, and not a patent. Perhaps you should have read my text more closely.
When you say “beads,” you make it sound like Elon had a bunch of copper BB’s in there bouncing around or something. The term “particles” clearly implies something much smaller than “beads.” In fact Elon says they are “micro-particles.” And they stick to DNA.
You did not answer the essense of the question about the particles either, which was “what are they?” You have a PhD in Organometallic Chemistry. The subject was graphene. I asked you what these magnetic stirring particles were. You should know that I was asking what the chemical composition of the magnetic particle were. You dodged the question. You said beads.
A bit more text on the magnetic particles.
If you cannot or will not answer what the chemical composition of the magentic stirring particles are in Tesla Groehmann’s magentic bioreactor, just say so. And if you cannot state what they are, please stop saying this:
Claims that “we don’t know what is in the jabs” are false and damaging to our cause.
First of all, we are not on the same team. My cause is not your cause. If you will take pharma’s word for something as you do- as if it were a definitive answer, we are not on the same team. So your team can do whatever you want, but don’t bother trying to tell me what to do.
Moving on. I had also asked you what could explain the difference between myocarditis rates in Japan between Pfizer and Moderna, if not graphene, amidst the report of black flakes in the Moderna vials. My theory being that an excessive amount of graphene in the Moderna vaccines, enough to trigger a recall by Japan, could be the difference in myocarditis rates. You made two replies to this topic. We’ll look at each.
Geoff Pain: Pfizer killed more people that Moderna per million jabs https://geoffpain. substack.com/p/relative-lethality-of-covid-19-vaccines.
Pfizer killed more than Moderna. That’s your reply. Let me show you again, as in the original article, what I am referring to. Theimage below was an English version of a report from the Japanese Health Ministry around December, 2021, per million males, as of November 14, 2021. Moderna’s myocarditis rate is starkly higher that Pfizer’s. Roughly 400-600% higher.
And what do you think it is the reason for the roughly 400-600% higher of Moderna than Pfizer? You didn’t even bother to answer the question again, now did you? When I asked you before if the magnetic stirring particles were graphene, you replied bead. When I ask you why Moderna’s rates Myocarditis rates are higher than Pfizer’s, you essentially reply that Pfizer killed more people.
With all due respect to your credentials, which is not much I’m afraid, you are making absolutely no sense in your arguments. You are not even attempting to answer the questions.
And last but not least. Or maybe it is least.
Geoff Pain: Moderna particles were investigated and report is available.https://www.takeda.com/ja-jp/announcements/statement-regarding-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-recall-investigation-report--october-2021
Here we see your bias. A pharmaceutical company says that they did no wrong, and that is your position as well. We’ll get back to that.
Continuing with the report from Moderna’s vaccine distributor in Japan, Takeda Pharmaceuticals. As before, you reported to me a link which I had not only included in the orginal article, but had again referenced heavily, and provided several arguments against.
Takeda’s story did not match the descriptions of the substance found in the vials of Moderna by pharmacists. While Takeda said they were stainless steel shavings, the pharmacists specifically spoke of black specks that floated when the vials were shaken. This is not consistent with the properties of stainless steel, as you should be aware of with a PhD in chemistry.
As I included in the article, below are an images of nano-graphene (NGO) in solutions of Polyethylene glycol (PEG). You can see the black coloration in the solutions where the graphene has accuumulated at the bottom of the tube.
And of course this is stainless steel.
Not the same stuff, doc. Black flakes that suspend when shaken. But “Takeda says.” Fuck Takeda. They’re lying. Japan made Takeda recall 1.62 million doses of this poison with good reason.
Moving on to one of your comments where you reference your friend.
“One of my friends is a leading expert in Graphene and its derivatives.”
I doubt that it is possible to become “a leading expert in Graphene and its deriviatives” without being paid to research this substance. And who would want to pay for this research. You should disclose the financial conflicts of interests of your friend: awards, contracts, grants, employment with government or pharmaceutical companies, anything that he was compensated for in his journey to become one of the leading experts in Graphene and its derivatives.
I doubt your friend has been saying to not use graphene. Why else would he spent a career working on graphene not to use it?
You seem to have quite an interest in graphene yourself.
In 1980 I had the pleasure of meeting Nobel Prize winner Professor Sir Geoffrey Wilkinson who made Ferrocene, a “sandwich molecule”, where two carbon pentagons bond to an Iron atom.
That’s very impressive. Perhaps you have some Nobel Prize aspirations of your own? Continuing:
In 2019, Chinese scientists, seeking to make a new detector to replace the use of Horsehoe Crab Blood Limulus Amoebocyte Lysate (LAL) assay, made Gold Nanoparticles which bond to the Sulfur atom of 5′-ferrocene-TCCATGTACCTT-3′ SH.
We were discussing LAL in the Twitter Space initially. As you undoubteldy know, LAL in the blood of horseshoe crabs clots around Gram-negative bacteria. We were trying to determine what causes clots in the blood of human beings. This LAL substance is harvested and applied to vaccine production equipment and packaging (to an unknown extent). If it is included in the jab somehow, that would be a problem.
Continuing with your report on Graphene.
Do you actually think that you can tell us not to talk about graphene and blood clots, while you publish techniques to replace LAL using Graphene?
Making the Graphene Oxide Endotoxin Sensor
The clever joining of technology is displayed in this scheme by Yu et al.
They took Glassy Carbon, coated it in Graphene Oxide, soaked it in a solution of the Ferrocene Peptide and measured the electrical signal. Then they attached Gold Nanoparticles to the surface bound Ferrocene Peptide and measured the electronic signal gain.
People don’t trust people like you today, Mr. Pain. Reason being, people are dying while sons of bitches like you want to take graphene and coat it in glass and sprinkle gold on it and call it medicine, or whatever the hell this is.
And then you tell us to shut up.
Well fuck you too. That’s about all I have to say. If I’m wrong about Graphene in CureVac and the Moderna vaccines in Japan, I’m wrong, but I see no point in listening to you on anything. You are not a trusted source of information for me. This has been enough of a waste of time already.
Charles Wright
P.S. And as for graphene in these blood clots, I don’t know. It wasn’t my idea initially. I am not as familiar with the theory. I felt like the concept as it was presented was at least plausible. I am however going to defend anyone’s right to speculate about graphene or whatever they want to speculate about. I still am leaning towards some phenomenon involving VAIDS and bacteria. Even the LAL contamination is still plausible. There may be a role of antibodies. But whatever. Let’s talk, speculate, test, raise money, or whatever need be to figure it out.
P.P.S
Here’s Elon talking about how the “magnetic micro-particles” stick to DNA.
Charles, Geoff Pain is a giant asshole down under, the size of which is threatening to suck in the entire continent of Australia. My advice is to not engage with him, as it only gives him validation. He is definitely a plant from some military program.
You go Charles! You provide an impressive defense.