Bullet theories are all over the place. I’m not committed to any one particular theory about the shooters. I tend to think Frank Sturgis was a shooter, or at least one of his Operation 40 team members was a shooter, because of his background, and because of what Marita Lorenz said about him. It also seems likely to that John Connally would have shot Kennedy at close range based on the Zapruder film and the way the bone fragments traveled onto the back of the limousine. I would not be surprised if either or both of those theories turned out to be false.
As for George Bush at the Book Depository, it’s going to take a lot of research and evidence to prove this particular theory if it is true. I’m not much for chasing little white rabbits from anonymous sources, but this one has checked out so far. The theory is very hard to believe: That JFK was alive when he arrived at the hospital, and that future CIA Director and President George Bush fired at Kennedy from the Book Depository. I can’t substantiate that, but here’s what I have found so far.
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George Bush does appear to have been at the Book Depository. I started from an untitled .pdf that includes a picture of the Book Depository with many people around it. Then I searched for the image.
Original 35mm black and white negative taken by Dallas Times Herald photographer William Allen as police and detectives guard the front entrance to the Texas School Book Depository building within 50 minutes of the assassination. Shortly after this picture was taken, Dallas Police officer M. N. McDonald, right, raced to Oak Cliff to investigate when he heard on the police radio that an officer had been shot there.
One conspiracy theory holds that the future president George H. W. Bush was present in Dealey Plaza and was somehow involved with the Kennedy assassination. This photograph and an oral history in the Museum's collection disprove that theory. The unidentified man at the far left is thought by some, because of a physical resemblance, to be George H. W. Bush. When Kennedy was shot, Bush, then president of the Zapata Offshore Drilling Company, a Houston-based Texas oil operation, was speaking at a Lion's Club luncheon in Tyler, Texas, about 95 miles from Dallas. He stopped his speech as soon as the group got word of the shooting and, according to an FBI report, called the FBI in Dallas at 1:40 p.m. with a tip that, before the assassination, he had learned the name of a man who vowed to kill Kennedy when the president came to Houston. Bush said he would fly to Dallas with his wife, Barbara, and be available at the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel. According to Barbara Bush, they soon departed in a private plane and circled Love Field while waiting for Air Force One's 2:45 p.m. departure. But this photograph was taken within 50 minutes of the 12:30 assassination, long before Bush could have traveled to Dallas. In his oral history, Dallas Police officer M. N. "Nick" McDonald identified himself at the right in the photograph. As he testified to the Warren Commission, McDonald confirmed that he stayed in Dealey Plaza until hearing on the police radio that an officer had just been shot. That announcement was made just before 1:20 p.m., thus fixing the latest moment the photograph could have been taken. And that means George H. W. Bush could not have traveled from Tyler, Texas to Dallas in time to appear in that same photo. - Gary Mack, Curator
There’s plenty of information to break down in that paragraph above, especially the FBI report where George Bush identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin at 1:40 PM. The part I want to look at here, however, is this statement: “In his oral history, Dallas Police officer M. N. "Nick" McDonald identified himself at the right in the photograph.”
This is McDonald. Does he look anything like the man on the left?
The image above is a signed card available for purchase on Amazon (the sources I use, right?) The item description states:
Maurice Neal "Nick" McDonald (1928-2005). He was the Dallas police officer who arrested Lee Harvey Oswald at the Texas Theatre on November 22, 1963, shortly after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. In a struggle with Oswald McDonald came close to becoming another victim. Oswald pressed a revolver against McDonald's stomach and pulled the trigger. McDonalds hand was on the weapon and prevented the hammer from completing the firing process.
Here McDonald is again, receiving a medal for the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald. The hairline is a bit similar, but McDonald is balding compared to Bush. Also McDonald is a bit portly compared to Bush. Also I don’t think it’s likely that a police officer like McDonald would have been just standing around in a suit and tie that day
Based on a simple review of photographs, I think it’s safe to call bullshit on McDonald’s claim that he is the man pictured at the Book Depository, and the “fact check” of The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealy Plaza at JFK.org.
So that places George Bush at the crime scene, which is a really interesting piece of information. That alone doesn’t come close to proving that he fired a weapon however. There are supposedly some videos of George Bush entering the Book Depository. Those would need to be located. There is supposedly a video of someone at the hospital saying that JFK was still alive, and another person saying that he had to die. That video would also have to be located. This is all conjecture to me at this point. There really isn’t enough evidence available to know what happened. Some people seem to be in the know, but proving it is another thing.
If Luna and her team serious about getting to the bottom of this, they are going to have to become a Warren Commission 2.0 and reconstruct the bullet shots from all available, original, unmodified evidence.
Now let’s look at some of the interesting information in the .pdf.
Gerald Ford appointed Herbert Walker Bush as the CIA Director at the crucial time when the House Select Committee on Assassinations was investigating CIA-FBI links to the murders of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy.
After Lee Harvey Oswald returned, along with his Soviet wife and daughter, to the United States from the Soviet Union, he was "handled" by Belarusian immigrant George DeMohrenschildt, a Dallas businessman who once worked in New York for Humble Oil, Prescott Bush's company. DeMohrenschildt was active in the right-wing anti-Communist circles and had close links to the CIA. DeMohrenschildt "committed suicide" in 1977 shortly before he was to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations. He also wrote a manuscript in which he stated he did not believe that Oswald could have killed Kennedy.
Poppy Bush has a fuzzy memory about where he was on Nov. 22, 1963 but his name, address, and phone number were found in the address book of Lee Harvey Oswald's close friend, George DeMohrenschildt.
Bush denies that he was in the CIA prior to being appointed by Gerald Ford but the evidence indicates that he was in the CIA when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. The following memo from J. Edgar Hoover disclosed some of his Cuban Operation activities and the fact that he was in the CIA. The following passage is clear: "The substance of the foregoing information was furnished to us by George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency..."
Consequently, when Bush called the FBI in Dallas within an hour after Kennedy was shot, to tell them that Oswald had shot the President, he was planting the seeds of the cover up or the obsession to convince the world that Oswald had acted alone.
Based on the memo from J Edgar Hoover, where you can barely make out “George Bush of hte Central Intelligence Agency,” the CIA has since more or less confirmed that George Bush was at least an “asset” of the CIA in 1963, in oddly-worded language full of spelling errors and hyphens.
Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE `GEORGE BUSH; C.I.A. OPERATIVE JOSEPH MCBRIDE Vice President George Bush's resume is his most highly touted asset as a candidate. But a recently discovered F.B.I. memorandum raises the possibility that, like many resumes, it omits some facts the applicant would rather not talk about: specifically, that he worked for the Cen- tral, Intelligence Agency in 1963, more than a deem& before he became its director. The F.B.I. memorandum, dated November 29, 1963, is from Director J. Edgar Hoover to the State Department and is subject-headed "Assas- sination of President John F. Kennedy Novem- ber 22, 1963." In it, Hoover reports that the Bureau had briefed "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" shortly after the assassination on the reaction of Cuban exiles in Miami. A source with close connec- tions to the intelligence community confirms that Bush started working for the agency in 1960 or 1961, using his oil business as a cover for clandestine activities. Informed of this memorandum, the Vice Pres- ident's spokesman, Stephen Hart, asked, "Are you sure it's the same George Bush?" After talk- ing to the Vice President, Hart quoted him as follows: "I was in Houston, Texas, at the time and involved in the independent oil drilling busi- ness. And I was running for the Senate in late '63." "Must be another George Bush," added Hart. Because the Vice President's response seemed something of a non-denial denial (he described what else he was doing rather than specifically denying C.I.A. involvement), I put the following queries to him via Hart: Did you do any work with or for the C.I.A. prior to the time you became its director? If so, what was the nature of your relationship with the agency, and how long did it last? Did you receive a briefing by a member of the F.B.I. on anti-Castro Cuban activities in the aftermath of the assas- sination of President Kennedy? uni The Washington Post The New York Times The Washington Times The Wall Street Journal The Christian Science Monitor New York Daily News USA Today The Chicago Tribu~ Date &7,~2 ~~~ 21 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 Half an hour later, Hart called me back to say that he had not spoken again to the Vice President about the matter, but would answer the questions himself. The answer to the first question was no, he said, and so he would skip number two. To the third, he repeated Bush's answer quoted above, but added that Bush had also said, "I don't have any idea of what he's talking about." However, when Bush's denial was read back to him, Hart said he preferred that it not be quoted directly, explaining, "It's a week old now, and I'm going off my notes." When I reminded him that we wanted to quote Bush directly, Hart said, "I am a spokesman. How- ever you want to write it, the answer is no" regarding Bush's alleged 1963 involvement with the C.I.A. "This is the first time I've ever heard this," C.I.A. spokesman Bill Devine said when confronted with the alle- gation of the Vice President's involvement with the agency in the early 1960s. "I'll see what I can find out and call you back." The next day Devine called back with the terse offi- cial response: "I can neither confirm nor deny." Told what the Vice President's office had said, and asked if he could check whether there had been another George Bush in the C.I.A., Devine seemed to become a bit nonplussed: `Twenty- seven years ago? I doubt that very much. In any event, we just have a standard policy of not confirming that anyone is involved with the C.I.A." Richard Helms, who was deputy director for plans at the agency in 1963, said the appearance of Bush's name in the memo "must have been some kind of misprint. I don't recall anyone by that name working for the agency.... He cer- tainly never worked for me." Hoover's memo, which was written to the director of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, was buried among the 98,755 pages of F.B.I. documents released to the public in 1977 and 1978 as a result of Freedom of Information.Act suits. It was written to sum- marize the briefing given to Bush and Capt. William Ed- wards of the Defense Intelligence Agency by the F.B.I.'s W.T. Forsyth on November 23, the day after the assassina- tion, when Lee Harvey Oswald was still alive to be inter- rogated about his connections to Cuban exiles and the C.I.A. The briefing was held, according to the F.B.I. direc- tor, because the State Department feared that "some mis- guided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Ken- nedy might herald a change in U.S. policy, which is not true." Hoover continues: Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti- Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the Presi- dent's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the Pres- ident's death represents a great loss not only to the U.S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for un- authorized action against Cuba. An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is. close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against than and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination. The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency.... (We attempted to locate William T. Forsyth, but learned that he is dead. Forsyth worked out of the Washington F.B.I. headquarters and was best known for running the in- vestigation of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in the Bureau's subversive control section. Efforts to locate Cap- tain Edwards by press time were unsuccessful.) Vice President Bush's autobiography, Looking Forward, written with Victor Gold (Doubleday, 1987), is vague to the point of being cryptic about his activities in the early 1960s, when he was running the Houston-based Zapata Off-Shore Company..("Running an offshore oil company," he writes, "would meamdavs went on or over water: not only the Gulf of Mexico but oceans and seas the world over.") But th, 1972 profile of Bush in Current Biography provides mor details of his itinerary in those years: "Bush traveller throughout the world to sell Zapata's oil-drilling services Under his direction it grew to be a multimillion-dollar con cern, with operations in Latin America, the Caribbean, th, Middle East, Japan, Australia, and Western Europe." Ana according to Nicholas King's George Bush. A Biography. Zapata was concentrating its business in the Caribbean and off South America in the early 1960s, a piece of information that meshes neatly with the available data on Bush's early C.I.A. responsibilities. Bush's duties with the C.I.A. in 1963 -whether he was a agent, for example, or merely an "asset"-cannot be deter mined from Hoover's memo. However, the intelligenc source (who worked with the agency in the late 1950s an through the 1960s) said of the Vice President: "I know h was involved in the Caribbean. I know he was involved i the suppression of things after the Kennedy assassinatior 2g. Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 w c Ford was trying vainly to keep secret. There was a very definite worry that some Cuban groups were going to move against Castro and attempt to blame it on the C.I.A." The initial reaction of Senator Frank Church, chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, to the firing of William Colby and the naming of Bush as Director of Cen- tral Intelligence in 1975 was to complain that it was part of a pattern of attempts by President Gerald Ford (a former member of the Warren commission) to impede the Church committee's nearly concluded investigation into C.I.A. assassination plots, with which Colby was cooperating but hi h Bush's C.I.A. connections might throw new light on his knowledge of the contra funding and supply operation, and his alleged knowledge of contra drug smuggling and the ac- tivities of General Noriega. It is worth noting in this context that, as Leslie Cockburn writes in out of Control, ,The anti-Castro C.I.A. team in Florida were already drawing at- tention to their drug-smuggling activities by 1963," and that it was Felix Rodriguez, the C.I.A. "alumnus who wore Che Guevara's watch and counted George Bush among his friends," who allegedly coordinated a SIO million payment to the contras by the Colombian cocaine cartel " . Bush's autobio Do the American people really want to elect a f graphy skips capriciously over the i d per o ormer director of the C.I.A. as their President?" Tom Wicker of the early 1960s, easing back into coherence only when he asked in The New York Times on Aril 29. "T' makes his official entry into public life as chair of the Harris been discussed so far; but it seems p obvious that hat hardly County, Texas, Republican Party in 1963-64, runs unsucass- chief might well be la that a is that fully for the Senate in 1964 against Democratic incumbent could later make him-as a public figure-subject to black- Ralph Yarborough, quits the OR business in 1966 and be. mail. Given the agency comes the victorious candidate for Co 's worldwide reputation for covert in- ngress from Houston, tervention and political meddling, moreover, one of its serving two terms before losing the 1970 Senate race to former directors in the White House certainly would be the Lloyd Bentsen, who had defeated Yarborough in the pri- object of suspicion and mistrust in numerous parts of the many. Asked recently about Bush's early C.I.A. conned globe. And well he might be." [ions, Yarborough said, "I never heard anything about it. It It was characteristic of George Bush, when sworn in as surprised me was they picked him Director of Central Intelligence in 1976, to declare: "I am for Director of Central Intelligence -how in hell he was an- determi d knowledge." Hoover's memo "explains something to me that I've always wondered about. It does make sense to have a trained C.I.A. man, with experience, appointed to the job." Bush's appointment as the agency's director in 1975 was widely criticized because, as Bush writes, "Bill Colby, a pro- f- ust e k an d I am more determined to protect thos e unselfish and patriotic people who, with total dedication, serve their country, often putting their lives on the line, only to have some people bent on destroying this agency expose their names." Bush has absorbed the code of the C.I.A. well, and he may feel that he is duty-bound to draw a veil of secrecy over hi ti . s ac vities of the early 1960s. But now, as candidate for Church commented: "It appears as though the White House the presidency, he has a hi may be using this important post merely as a grooming American the people. ghat duty of President to has a room before he is brought on stage next ~~ If the man who would be President has a year as a vice- longstanding history of involvement in covert activities, presidential running mate." Speaking against the appoint meet, Church said he knew of "no - then the people are entitled to know about it. Thus far Bush particular reason why has refused to directly deny such involvement. Either he is (Bush) is qualified" for the job; Bush himself characterized intentionally misleading us, or he is a victim of mistaken identi- the appointment as a "real shocker." In his autobiography tY? If it's the latter, he or President Reagan should instruct Bush points out, "I'd come to the CIA with some general the gnomes of Langley to turn over the personnel records of knowledge of how it operated." His remark in the book that the other George Bush. The claims of national security pale his "overseas contacts as a businessman" helped qualify him beside the overriding national interest in the truth. for the controversial appointment by President Nixon to the post of ambassador to the United Nations could also refer Joseph McBride is the author of a biography of Frank to previous C.I.A. experience. Agents often adopt the cover Capra, to be published by Alfred A. Knopf. of a businessman. And business people have also served as informants for the agency, passing along information picked up on their travels. sstonal m inc intelligence field, was being replaced by a nonprofessional outsider-and a politician to boot " Senator 2`J. Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2012/10/23: CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580068-7 ne pointed head of the C.I.A. without any experienex or to protect those things that m b
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comparing references that include Ratcliffe's work (with Prouty) and Jim Marrs ('Crossfire: the plot that killed Kennedy'), it seems Bush, Sr. was there, but the reason for it hasn't yet become clear. as you say, another rabbit hole. happy hunting...
comparing references that include Ratcliffe's work (with Prouty) and Jim Marrs ('Crossfire: the plot that killed Kennedy'), it seems Bush, Sr. was there, but the reason for it hasn't yet become clear. as you say, another rabbit hole. happy hunting...