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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Contagion theory is full of ambiguities. I recall having repeated bouts of flu as a youngster and then a teenager, that never seemed to claim my sisters or my parents. But my younger sister and I had chicken pox at the same time.

Charles Wright's avatar

Interesting that you and your sisters never had flu together. Chickenpox is of course a different story. Me my brother and sister all got it together. I do believe it is contagious. Some disagree though.

Joel W. Hay, PhD's avatar

So do you believe in herpes Zoster or not?

DWB's avatar

What do you think of claims that the flu is somehow spread around by governments? During Covid the flu disappeared (because they were spreading Covid, the theory goes) and the Influenza B Yamagata strain never returned. Bob Malone seemed to be suggesting something like during a recent ACIP meeting, but then he backed off and it's hard to determine what he's up to.

Charles Wright's avatar

I think influenza was around, same as it always was. They just started PCR testing everyone who came into the hospital with influenza-like symptoms, or really anyone they could test. If you got hit by a bus and died, and they PCR tested you while you were there, they got money for both the test and the "COVID" death certificate. What spread was PCR testing. Hospital protocols, subsidized and designed to kill, followed testing, and death followed the deadly protocols. It's really that simple. Rebecca Charles wrote about influenza: https://rebeccacharles.substack.com/p/vanishing-flu-covid-19-rising-deaths

"In a normal year, influenza kills thousands of Americans. Between 2010 and 2020, anywhere from 6,300 to over 52,000 people died from the flu annually in the U.S.

But then came 2020–2021.

In the height of what was supposed to be a global viral war, the flu mysteriously vanished.

The CDC reported just 931 flu deaths nationwide.

Only 230 flu-related hospitalizations were logged.

Flu activity dropped to the lowest level since records began in 1997.

Let that sink in."

And really it makes you wonder how many of these tens of thousands of "influenza" deaths in years previously were attributable to influenza or similar hospital protocols that killed during COVID. I think hospitals were doing pretty much the same thing to a substantial extent, depending on jurisdiction and how many Medicaid patients they were trying to knock off (New York had an influenza Medicaid culling strategy according to my research)- ventilators, vaccines and whatnot, sans Remdesivir and the subsidies.

Allen's avatar

Came across this comment a while back:

"The insult that causes respiratory dis-stress is dehydration. It’s seasonal because cold air holds the least moisture and indoor room air often dries out with heating. The dry mucosa must re-establish itself and the production of mucus goes into overdrive. The mucosa requires salt and moisture and it will move both from any bodily reserves. This causes pain as the extraction process goes into motion. Now you know why the old remedies are successful. Salt water gargles, nasal irrigations/inhalations and chicken soup / bone broth soups. Sanatoriums were built along coastlines to take advantage of sea spray because it was known to heal injured lungs. Hydration equals salt plus water. Healing begins with hydration."

The primary reasons for people getting "The Flu™" (there is no such thing it's just a marketing term) during "Flu Season™" has to do with spending more time indoors and breathing recycled air (usually laden with chemicals), much less sunlight, less exercise outdoors and of course the increase in poisonous injections. Not to mention already bad food habits completely go to shit.

There are other causal factors.

mary-lou's avatar

when we were young and had the flu, my grandfather told us to put on warm clothes and go outside, breathing in the cold, fresh air instead of hovering near the heater. also to eat lots of tangerines and oranges (vit.C), mysteriously exactly in season at that same period. also my mother would use camomile for steam inhalation.

Charles Wright's avatar

I'm sure many things work if you want to fight it. C&D, very well known. I've heard good things about chamomile but never used it. Fun fact, "Chamomile man" was the first logo of Merck, the first pharmaceutical company, back when they were true herbal Medicine, and before they turned into the most evil (chemical) pharmaceutical company even, in my opinion.

I used Echinacea once with good results. I had a nasty case of influenza once at work, which was either "going around," or happened simultaneously. People were literally putting their heads on desks and tables and just sitting there. I read that farmers fed Echinacea to their horses, a big easy to grow plant, purple coneflower. So I figured the trick was to take a lot of it. I bought it in raw leaf form, not a chemical, so why not take a lot. This was in winter of course. I could literally feel the heat in my gut. When I exhaled, (there is always some steam in winter when you exhale), there was way more visible steam on my breath than I had ever seen. It worked quick. I still have some.

mary-lou's avatar

that's the spirit! analogous story: before the days of chemically copied and mass-produced paracetamol (tylenol, panadol etc) there was the household plant meadowsweet or Spirea (Filipendula ulmaria) that produced aspirine-type of pain relief, due to its salycil-bearing properties >> herbal tea, steam inhalation - https://nativetreesfromseed.com/wildflowers/meadowsweet

be well

Charles Wright's avatar

I started to include something along these lines Low humidity does seem to be a likely factor as well. It may have something to do with bacteria or the immune system response to bacteria.

Whether outdoors in the cold or indoors with artificial dry heat, low humidity damages and kills lung cells, which in turn, bacteria feed on. If you don't cough the bacteria and dead cells out, and the bacteria build enough, the bacterial excrete enough to form a toxic condition- sepsis or pneumonia. That much is a given.

In the early stages of damage to lung cells, before becoming pneumonia, the body could trigger influenza, possibly. There's some biological "trigger" there, seems like, which could originate in lung cells. I have more questions than answers in the modern "racket" era of medicine. Thanks for the comment.

Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Without doubt, the most beneficial thing that came out of the scamdemic was the realization by so many people that viruses simply don't exist. That we have been so thoroughly brainwashed to believe in them, and their transmissibility, is a hurdle that seems to be almost too high to leap over.

Charles Wright's avatar

I believe that bacteriophages exist, which seems to be a consensus. They are the "seeds" of new bacteria. They were the original viruses of the late 19th century, "filterable bacteria." The submicroscopic, invisible modern viruses of today are simply scapegoats for what man does to man. Poliomyelitis, named for the grey lesions on spinal columns of those who consumed fruit soaked in lead arsenate, is the best example. The Rockefellers led an effort to create the "poliovirus" scapegoat. Today the genetic sequences of invisible hypothetical (nonexistent) viruses are generated anyway "science" desires, most likely as a result "gain of function research" designed to create disease, death, genetic mutations and profit, after hacking the genetic codes of DNA and RNA. The sequences won't spread person to person, so they must be coated with lipid nanoparticles to trick our cells into accepting them, and injected, as mass media, paid liars and fools of the medical field, and governments of the world drive the public fear.